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Q. I have a student in my class that had a pulmonary embolism last
year. Are there any prohibitions?
from:
windellow7@bt.com |
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Answer 1.
[From a
Yoga teacher in ER]
I’ve had a pulmonary embolism. It is a life threatening 'event'
and a blood clot can have a devastating effect on the lung. Even
as a pulmonary embolism starts to occur, the body begins to react
to cope, and the unaffected lung attempts to take over the
breathing function/process. If you survive a lung or part of a lung [usually
a lobe] is lost, people can make a good recovery and the undamaged
lungs simply compensate for the loss.. I do not find any or the
Pranayama techniques a problem or any postures.
Has anyone anything
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Q. There is a condition known as Sleep Apnoea which can occur with
some people during deep relaxation. It can cause seizures. Has
anyone come across this during relaxation in a yoga class ?
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Lewis Berger fotppv@aol.com |
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Q. I have had a query from someone whose husband has a breathing
disorder, and his doctor suggested he tried Yoga breathing
practices. He is only using 40% of his lung capacity! Can anyone
offer any advice on this query .... from
Sue Burton |
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Q, A friend of
mine has been encouraged to hold her baby upside down by
holding onto his thighs in a baby yoga class. She herself
has very loose flexible ligaments, are there any possible
risks to her child?
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Your comments most welcome, thank you ...
from Karen Clake |
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Q. I have a potential student who has Downs Syndrome. Please
advise any prohibitions and precautions.
from:
nan-brewer17@virgin.com |
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Answer 1. One of the
main prohibitions with people suffering from Downs Syndrome is
that they can often have a muscular-skeletal weakness in the top
three cervical vertebrae. Inverted postures that put any strain on
the neck are prohibited and there are possibly good arguments
against taking the head back in postures like cobra, etc.
Has anyone anything
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Q. Any suggestions regarding a student who has Marfan's syndrome.
Any advice ~ any prohibitions and precautions.
from:
sep-pagetter3@opendoores.com |
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A.1 People
that have the genetic disorder Marfans' syndrome are often rather
tall and usually have longer arms and legs than average and they
will often find even simple balance difficult ~ the use of a chair
or a wall into help simple balances is suggested.. Kyphosis is
very common and very little flexibility in this area of the spine.
Postures like Savasana can be difficult and the head and upper
back will need a lot of support ~ blocks, meditation stool, etc,
to support the head and
upper
back. There are often problems with the aorta. People that have
this genetic disorder usually know their limitations and will
modify postures themselves. The student/teacher relationship is
important and good feedback is essential.
from
Gill Johns
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A.2. My young nephew has Mafrans syndrone
and his condition affects wherever there is elasticity in his
body. His tendons & ligaments are very elastic making all his
joints very mobile, the walls around his arteries are very
elastic so are liable to stretch. If his artery walls
(particularly the aorta) stretch too much they will become thin
and leak or burst. He has yearly scans to measure the size of
his aorta and takes beta blocker medication. I really don't have
the medical knowledge to say if inversions should be a
precaution but would think your student should check with their
GP first. I would also be very careful not to over stretch with
the yoga practice but work more on building strength,
particularly to support the vulnerable joints. I would also be
very careful not to let the knees overextend (push back) when
standing. My nephew could perform any yoga posture that involves
flexibility with ease (and without practice) but will have to
work on his strength when he becomes older to protect his
joints. Yoga balance is difficult because his feet are just too
elastic to provide a firm base. He is tall, with long limbs,
large feet and a cheeky smile. All this sounds quite
frightening, but really makes little difference to his daily
life, he plays football etc with his friends without any
problems........
from Karen Clarke |
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Q. I
have a 43 year old lady in my class who up until 3 months ago
was a regular attendee and fairly fit and strong. Due to
incorrect lifting she now has a slipped/ruptured lumbar
vertebrae leading to sciatica problems. After weeks of treatment
her Chiropractor has instructed her to attend Pilates classes to
quote "strengthen" her core. She would rather return to yoga.
However (a) she is still in much discomfort and (b) can hardly
lift one leg. I have my own views on what she might do yoga
wise. BUT I'd really appreciate input from any teachers who have
had experience with this very common ailment.
from:
Lez
Gray
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Has anyone anything
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A.1 Every back problem is individual and a one to one is the
ideal solution here to discover what postures are suitable. As a
generalisation for prolapsed disc - gently does it! and it depends
entirely on the severity of the prolapse and the stage of
recovery. If early stages and quite severe - rest in semi supine
or prone are the order of the day and then progress from there.
Would be very happy to correspond with this enquirer if it would
help. I have 13 years experience now of treating back problems.
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Namaste ...... Vonnie |
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A.2. I
think the chiropractor probably said to her
'she must
strengthen her core structure'.
Essentially meaning strengthening the abdominal muscles to
support the back, Core Structure has been the
'in-word'
for the last few years with exercise professionals.
The chiropractor is probably one who has
experienced yoga classes where little work is done to strengthen
muscles ~ emphasis on flexibility - which is a recipe for
disaster.
Hatha originally [and
still does] meant
'forceful'.
Some yoga
teachers do not
understand the ageing process and the need to keep good muscle
tone and build up strength. The work that Drs like Fenham in
the 70’s and Skilton in the 90’s have been preaching goes
unheeded in many yoga circles. Essentially they have said simple
load bearing excises will increase bone density, strengthen
muscles, reduce the risk of falling and that many problem
concerning weakness & muscles with older people come from disuse
atrophy [ people don't use their muscles and the muscles waste
faster than they should ]. The one thing that 'real Pilates'
should do is to strengthen the core structure. Yoga
should do this but not the way a lot of teachers 'teach'
..... P. Feltch
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A.3 There have been two very good articles in the B.M.J. and
the Scientific American which we can't publish due to copyright
restrictions. If anyone thinks it worthwhile we could précis these
and publish their views on the site. Note: the articles do not
give specific treatments but talks about Back Pain causes
and general. A summary of the article that appears in the BMJ can
be seen on the University of Warwick web site.
.....web admin |
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A.4 [From
the web administrator ]
A few years back, the Wheel produced a Support Leaflet [which
was approved by National Back Pain Association ]. The
problem of distributing this through classes is one of costs. This
website is ideal for getting stuff like this out to teachers. If
anyone is reasonable at doing pen and ink drawings we could get
this support leaflet onto the site [ANY
OFFERS ? ].
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Has anyone anything
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Q. Please does anyone
have up to date medical advice with regard to a student with hip
joint replacement? I was surprised that her doctor has
told her not to do forward bends. |
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from:
Vonnie
Bloom |
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A.1 The problem
is that there are several types of hip replacement ~ although they
are all based on a ball and socket action. I have had
students in my classes with hip replacements and they all did forward
bends without any problems. However, they were told not to do
adduct the leg [move the leg across the body or even cross
the legs].
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The law of averages
says that with some four hundred teachers in Eastern Region, we
must have people in classes that have had hip replacements.
What do other
teachers think ? ............
j.cain |
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A.2
Lez Grey writes:
My mother had a hip replacement earlier this
year. What was interesting was the physiotherapy that started
immediately. This involved both adduction and lateral extension
whilst holding onto a support rail. The main don't was to have
the leg high than her bottom when sitting. This would obviously
bring about a fulcrum that could lead to dislocation at the acetabulum. I think after an initial period of recovery (doctors
advice) a modified paschimotoasana using a block to sit on (or
even on a chair) would achieve similar benefits to uttanasana.
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lez grey |
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A 2 [From
the web administrator ]
This like the previous question is one where we need to share and
build up knowledge. |
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A.3
A person with replacement hips may work on forward bends as long
as the movement is done slowly. Avoid any position that can
cause strain such as crossing the legs, full twists and Surya
Namaskara is definitely contraindicated........
Margaret Weston |
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Q. I have a student in my class that suffers from Stress
Incontinence. I know this can be a common problem with some
women during and after pregnancy. Has anyone any sugges-tions
regarding exercises/treatment, etc ?
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boniikind7@bt.com |
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A. 1. Re the teacher enquiring
about 'Stress Incontinence' , I think it would be most useful to
practise pelvic floor exercises/mula bandha. Also there is a
very good little book out titled 'Women's Waterworks - Curing
Incontinence' by Pauline E. Chiarelli. This book is one of the
set books I used during my Yoga for Pregnancy training course
with Wendy Teasdill, and I would recommend it to all teachers,
as it is such a common problem, not just in pregnant women.
There is also an Association for Continence advice, at 380-384
Harrow Road, London W9 2HU, which has a helpline, 091 213 0050
(Mon-Fri - 2.00-7.00pm)
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from:
Linda Beach |
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Q. Brittle bones are common in older women. Has anyone personal
knowledge of this condition and any prohibitions they have found
or know about. |
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A. 1. There are a number of articles and books on this subject.
The BWY teacher Margaret Graham produced an excellent boo, which
now published through BWY called Keep Moving-Keep Young.
Bone Loading
by Ariel Simkin and Judith Ayalon was one of the first
books on the subject and a good introduction. Other books are:
Yoga Builds Bones
by Jan Maddern and also Exercises for Stronger Bones by Joan
Bassey and Susan Dinton. Bone Loading is also know in medical
circles as Musculoskeletal Loading there are a number of papers on
this some you can get on the internet see the reports from the
12th Conference of the European Society of Biomechanics. There are
sites dealing specifically with osteoporosis
www.nos.org.uk
and
www.osteofound.org
and also
a number of yoga sites dealing with osteoporosis:
www.yogabasics.com/articles/Osteoporosis,
www.beingyoga.com/Yoga_ and_Osteoporosis.
As far back as the mid 70's doctors like Dr P.H. Fentem,
[department of Physiology, University of Nottingham], were
advocating exercise to combat osteoporosis, but some of us weren't listening. There are
many factors that can cause osteoporosis and the commonest is a
change in hormone production ~ in women it is
a lack of oestrogen often due to early menopause ~ in men
low levels of the male
hormone, testosterone (hypogonadism). Conditions like immobility
can give rise to osteoporosis ~ along with diseases such as liver
and thyroid problems, myeloma and mal-absorption problems, etc.
We have a
couple of handouts in the teachers support section covering some
aspects of osteoporosis
[More are welcome]......
web admin |
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Q. There is a condition known as Sleep Apnoea which can occur with
some people during deep relaxation. It can cause seizures. Has
anyone come across this during relaxation in a yoga class ?
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Lewis Berger fotppv@aol.com |
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Q. I have had a query from someone whose husband has a breathing
disorder, and his doctor suggested he tried Yoga breathing
practices. He is only using 40% of his lung capacity! Can anyone
offer any advice on this query .... from
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Q. I
have a male student in one of
my classes, about 35 years old who played a lot of football when
he was younger. He has a problem with his knees and is unable to
bend forward and keep his legs straight. If he tries it gives him
considerable pain behind the knees. I obviously suggest to him
that he should keep the legs bent, but he may have damaged his
ligaments and tendons. Can anybody suggest anything that may help
him to overcome this problem ...................
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A. 1. The things that limit us on forward bends [most of
the time] are the hamstrings and as flexibility is a
genetic quality[inherited ], he may simply have
inherited tight hamstrings.
Activities like football do not help and often tend to tighten
up that area and in most well run clubs now, they will do a lot of
stretching after training. There are several books I would
recommend that might prove useful. Bob Anderson and also Paul McNaught-Davis book both called
Stretching
are quite good and in
the archives, the article by R.A.Butler is good. Sport injury
books are often useful regarding exercises for recuperation. There
is a website
www.sportsinjuryclinic.net/cybertherapist/injurylist.htm
that might give advice 'from a distance'. There are many books
on treating sport injuries ~ most of them are expensive, i.e.;
books by Christopher Norris or Roger Bartlett are recommended. If
there is pain behind the knee it might be the condition Baker's
Cyst which is giving the pain at the back of the knee and on the medial side. If you
know of any yoga teacher/sports therapist /physio-therapist that
could give him a P.N.F. test it might show what his natural
potential and limitations are in the hamstring area.
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Pregnancy & Yoga: What are Precautions and Prohibitions during
relaxation? Are there certain postures that should be avoided?
I've been told that lying in Shavasana puts to much pressure on
the heart? However, I've been in classes where ladies have been
told to relax in Supta Baddha Konasana. In some books the
relaxation postures are those lying on your side.... from
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A. 1. Lying on the back during pregnancy pushes the weight of the
uterus and baby down-wards, which compresses the vena cava, the
main vein which brings blood from the organs back to the heart.
This compression and restricted blood flow can be felt in the
mother by breathlessness, dizziness or tingly legs. The blood
supply to the placenta is also affected.
Lying with the legs bent relieves the pressure, as does lying with
the legs up the wall. A wedge can also be placed under the right
hip to further free up the vena cava return. After 30-34 weeks
pregnancy, lying on the left side of the body is said to encourage
O.F.P. (optimal foetal positioning), and from this point, lying on
the right side or on the back should be avoided for any more than
a few minutes at a time.
Pregnant women should spend little time on the back, even with
knees bent, and should be told to roll over off their back and
onto their left side every few minutes, however early they are
in their pregnancy, to get them into good habits. Relaxation and
sleeping should always be on the left side (cushion under the
head, another under the upper/right bent knee), particularly from
30 weeks onwards, as O.F.P should be heartily encouraged.
Other precautions and prohibitions to be aware of in pregnancy
are:
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Do not retain the breath at any time. Focus on the exhalation and
breathe slowly.
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Do not practice anything which is uncomfortable or does not feel
right.
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Avoid standing for long periods of time or hold standing postures
for too long - practice dynamic postures instead of static.
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Shorten the stance in standing postures.
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Yoga practice should no longer be strenuous/ raise the heart beat.
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Do not overstretch into a posture, as your ligaments are naturally
softer during pregnancy.
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There should be no pressure felt on the abdomen at any time during
the class.
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Do not lie on the stomach.
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Be aware that pregnant women can feel emotionally more vulnerable
and therefore be cautious with guided visualisations or mental
images in relaxation states.
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Finally, remember the student is ultimately
responsible for the care of her own body and baby, however a
pregnant women in a general yoga class is not as ideal as a yoga
for pregnancy class ............
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The following two questions
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Q.1. I'm a Wheel teacher and have always stuck to the advice
to students that inverted postures were not to be used by high
blood-pressure students. Recently, at an In-Service Training day,
it was suggested by the DCT running the day that, as long as blood
pressure was controlled, there was no need to keep students from
inversion.
Could you let me have your advice on this,
please....
Kay Russell |
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DR Gilmore's response
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A.1. This is a tricky one.
"Controlled" can mean different things, some people are
well-controlled and others not. Also, when HBP[High
Blood Pressure]
has developed there is likely to be some degree of associated
cardiovascular disease (arteriosclerosis), so inverting may not be
wise as it puts the brain's blood vessels under strain. I
recommend that people with HBP should do "legs up the wall", or if
they are "controlled" and want to do half shoulder-stand (viparita
karani) then they can, but only for a short time. I prefer
them not to do full s/s and not headstand, as I don't think it's
necessary to do these - one can do a balanced practice without
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Of course, we must remember that a
proportion of people with high BP remain undiagnosed (it has no
symptoms and is often only picked up by being measured as a
routine part of a visit to the GP). Thus we can have people with
high BP in class and not know it - we can only advise on the basis
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Q.1 An acquaintance, not a yoga student, has a condition
in the lower back that has led to a nerve root (L5/S1) becoming compressed. He
had surgery to decompress it. It has simply
served to move the problem to L4/L5 and he now gets discomfort
in the left lower back and the left calf...
Kay Russell
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A.1. It sounds like this person has sciatic nerve problems, but it
is difficult to know whether the pain is due to this, or to other
factors. Sometimes (fortunately rarely) the nerves become
sensitised by the operation and produce a sensation of pain in the
brain for no reason. This may be linked with some psychological
situation - was he expecting a lot from the op? Does he really
want to be better - sometimes people actually don't want to lose
their invalid status. Is there a lot of pain in his life? One of
the worst cases of "failed" back surgery I know was on so much
prescription medication she became addicted to their morphine
content. She was in un-relievable pain for over 2 years, then went
to the Priory for drug rehab. The physiotherapists there showed
her that she could move without drugs. Now she says "Yes, I still
hurt, but I don't suffer". She now realises that much of her pain
was due to her domestic situation, with conflict and problems
abounding. Now she is tackling these, the back is no longer a
problem. This may not be the situation with your person, but it's
worth bearing in mind. Of course one is not judgemental, if it is
this way, he does not do it on purpose, but as a coping
mechanism. Anyway, whatever the cause, I suggest that you
recommend a gentle holistic approach, focusing on pain management
by developing the witness within and learning to relax into the
pain. Teach him to use the breath to quieten the mental state,
and see what happens. He will either comply and probably improve,
or he'll not stick with it, in which case you can suspect that
there are deep psychological factors working, and that yoga is not
going to help with these at present, the time is not right for
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Can anyone offer any
help/suggestions/advice on appropriate postures/pranayama for an
acquaintance I know who has kidney problems and is on dialysis?
Her doctor has said that yoga would be beneficial although she
finds it difficult to stretch in the mid-torso area. She is not
current attending a yoga class, as she cannot find one
locally, although she has some experience of yoga. ....
Angie Punaks |
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